Monday, March 4, 2013

Re: [Electric Boats] just posted some pics of a solar canoe project I'm working on

 

jonny, 'thanks for the kind words and let me mention you have a keen eye to notice. With it getting warmer I'll be getting out there again. Things came to a halt during the winter.

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> Great Post!  Your mock up with the wood & hanging the upper panel bracket with rope was a practical & quick solution.  Having real dimensions that you can touch is a thousand times better than a hundred drawings.  Please post again, especially with you out of the sun & in the shade of the solar panels, while under way.    Good luck to you.
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Sunday, March 3, 2013

Re: [Electric Boats] Electric Motor Components

 



From: Kevin <pembertonkevin@gmail.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Electric Motor Components

 
The advice from Carter is sound.
If you don't have the desire to study and learn you will likely have many false starts. In selecting components first hull characteristics are needed. From there you need to define how the boat will be used(range, speed, water conditions, weather conditions). Depending on the above and how much you want to spend(efficient vs. inefficient: Motor,controller) will make the difference in controller type and battery bank required. Size and type of battery bank will determine charger type and boat range. Understanding what you want before you contract a qualified party to do the job will save money and development time. You may not know the answer to, "What do you want". But you know what your dream is, and that is the best starting point. A qualified person will modify your dream to fit your pocket book, if it is possible. This list can help you with this last statement, or help you learn the DIY end of things. It will also give you quite a hobby over the coming years. What you learn will add plenty to your future boating life.

Kevin Pemberton



On 07/17/2012 09:12 AM, Carter Quillen wrote:
 
Hello Adam,
 
While you have certainly come to the best place on the planet for invaluable free information about electric boats, from the sound of your email, you might want to seek some professional help because it sounds like you could be headed for the classic, "screw it up the first time by myself and then pay twice as much to get it fixed right" scenerio.
 
There are definitely a lot of parts and kits from places like thunderstruck, evdrives, and cloudelectric that look like they could save you a lot of money and actually can but installing one of these DIY systems is not for the faint at heart. If you don't have the min. skill set to do things like, say, change out the clutch on your car, fabricate small structural metal support components, and read electrical schematics good enough to troubleshoot simple household appliances with some success, then I wouldn't even consider going into an electric propulsion installation. And this is just the absolute minimum skill level for someone with excellent problem solving abilities, good manual dexterity, and a lot of perserverance. If you don't have this minimum, either find some friends that do or just hire a professional and pay more for a turnkey system.
 
That's just my advice, you can check out my own DIY installation of a kit from evdrives at http://www.archemedesproject.blogspot.com/. I'm a professional mechanical engineer with over 20 years of industrial experience and it took every thing I had, and then some, to build this system. But it was successful, and I definitely saved a lot of money.
 
Sorry in advance for all the sunset, landscape, and bird picks you'll have to thumb thru but it's my first mates blog so it's not just about the propulsion system. While I hav to compliment Evdrives which was very helpful in providing answers to my specific questions but most of the hard stuff I had to figure out on my own and you can't blame these vendors if you get stuck.
 
Good luck.
 
 

From: adam.riso <risoam@earthlink.net>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: [Electric Boats] Electric Motor Components

Hello,

I am new to the group. There seems to be a lot of great information on the group available but way over my head. I am in the planning stage of building a wooden 14' mini tug boat powered by an electric (golf cart) motor. The plans that I have go into motors, controllers, solenoids, etc. and I was hoping that someone would be able to simplify it and point me in the right direction as to what exactly are the components I need to purchase. One person who built a similar boat used: Advanced DC #A89-4001 Motor, 6HP/36-72VDC and a Curtis-PMC #1205-201 Motor Controller, 36-48VDC/350A but I really don't understand what that all means. I also have questions about what you use to give it more power (to increase the speed) or but it in reverse, etc. I appreciate any insight. Thank you! Adam



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[Electric Boats] Jewels of Aloha eBoat Hawaii Project Feedback

 

Aloha,

Jewels of Aloha is near completion on our Custom Built Electric Hybrid Boat and have launched our http://jewelsofaloha.com Website.

The website will be a place where people can come and learn about us and the mission of our company. It is also a place where you can participate and add your knowledge on a wide range of topics from boat building and electric boats to broader environmental issues.

One of our aims is to build a large and comprehensive links page where people can go and find links to information and companies related to electric motors, green energy, boating, local resources and other progressive companies.

We need your help to expand our list of links and resources. If you are a marine related company or are related to green energy, please go to our http://jewelsofaloha.com/?page_id=122 Links Page and add your Company name and website. If you are just browsing and you know of any resources you would like to promote on our website please add a suggestion and we will be sure to post it.

Jewels of Aloha has built the Custom Built Hybrid Fishing Vessel Malolo I. The Malolo I is a flat bottom Pacific Power Dory designed by Spira International. She is a Fiberglass on Wood construction with a LOA of 23'-00" and a Beam of 8'-02".

She will be outfitted with the ReGen 135HP ELECTRIC OUTBOARD MOTOR.

Her primary power source is a Mase 6.0 marine diesel generator using 100% BIODIESEL. She will also have supplementary power from MARINE SOLAR PANELS and a WIND TURBINE.

Come check out our website http://jewelsofaloha.com for our VIDEOS ON BOATBUILDING, PICTURES OF THE MALOLO I, and MORE about our company.

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Re: [Electric Boats] Electric Motor Components

 

The advice from Carter is sound.
If you don't have the desire to study and learn you will likely have many false starts. In selecting components first hull characteristics are needed. From there you need to define how the boat will be used(range, speed, water conditions, weather conditions). Depending on the above and how much you want to spend(efficient vs. inefficient: Motor,controller) will make the difference in controller type and battery bank required. Size and type of battery bank will determine charger type and boat range. Understanding what you want before you contract a qualified party to do the job will save money and development time. You may not know the answer to, "What do you want". But you know what your dream is, and that is the best starting point. A qualified person will modify your dream to fit your pocket book, if it is possible. This list can help you with this last statement, or help you learn the DIY end of things. It will also give you quite a hobby over the coming years. What you learn will add plenty to your future boating life.

Kevin Pemberton



On 07/17/2012 09:12 AM, Carter Quillen wrote:
 
Hello Adam,
 
While you have certainly come to the best place on the planet for invaluable free information about electric boats, from the sound of your email, you might want to seek some professional help because it sounds like you could be headed for the classic, "screw it up the first time by myself and then pay twice as much to get it fixed right" scenerio.
 
There are definitely a lot of parts and kits from places like thunderstruck, evdrives, and cloudelectric that look like they could save you a lot of money and actually can but installing one of these DIY systems is not for the faint at heart. If you don't have the min. skill set to do things like, say, change out the clutch on your car, fabricate small structural metal support components, and read electrical schematics good enough to troubleshoot simple household appliances with some success, then I wouldn't even consider going into an electric propulsion installation. And this is just the absolute minimum skill level for someone with excellent problem solving abilities, good manual dexterity, and a lot of perserverance. If you don't have this minimum, either find some friends that do or just hire a professional and pay more for a turnkey system.
 
That's just my advice, you can check out my own DIY installation of a kit from evdrives at http://www.archemedesproject.blogspot.com/. I'm a professional mechanical engineer with over 20 years of industrial experience and it took every thing I had, and then some, to build this system. But it was successful, and I definitely saved a lot of money.
 
Sorry in advance for all the sunset, landscape, and bird picks you'll have to thumb thru but it's my first mates blog so it's not just about the propulsion system. While I hav to compliment Evdrives which was very helpful in providing answers to my specific questions but most of the hard stuff I had to figure out on my own and you can't blame these vendors if you get stuck.
 
Good luck.
 
 

From: adam.riso <risoam@earthlink.net>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: [Electric Boats] Electric Motor Components

Hello,

I am new to the group. There seems to be a lot of great information on the group available but way over my head. I am in the planning stage of building a wooden 14' mini tug boat powered by an electric (golf cart) motor. The plans that I have go into motors, controllers, solenoids, etc. and I was hoping that someone would be able to simplify it and point me in the right direction as to what exactly are the components I need to purchase. One person who built a similar boat used: Advanced DC #A89-4001 Motor, 6HP/36-72VDC and a Curtis-PMC #1205-201 Motor Controller, 36-48VDC/350A but I really don't understand what that all means. I also have questions about what you use to give it more power (to increase the speed) or but it in reverse, etc. I appreciate any insight. Thank you! Adam



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Saturday, March 2, 2013

[Electric Boats] 1963 pearson Ariel, Triumph, electric conversion

 

Howdy all,

I am in the process of rebuilding the venerable Pearson Ariel.  The previous owner had fixed and upgraded some of the exterior, like recoring the deck and painting the topsides, however the interior was left in its 1960s attire, so my main goals are to rebuild the interior and repower with an electric drive.  Not a small feat to accomplish over the winter... however, I have the luxury of time, so I am able to work as much as I can tolerate.

If you would like to see the rebuild, most of it is here: http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?1332-Ariel-97/page9

However, as I am working my way around the boat I am now ready to tackle the electric conversion in earnest.  As you might imagine, I am trying to do as much as I can in order to keep the cost low.  So, I am thinking of purchasing the 8.5kW sailboat kit from Thunderstruck-ev.com along with 4 group 27, 12v100Ah, AGM type batteries.  I am going to fabricate my own motor mount and will be adding a Honda i2000eu generator in the lazerette.

more later, matt 

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