Saturday, July 31, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 


On Jul 31, 2010, at 18:19, Samuel Shallard wrote:
> (snip)
> There is a new battery from Australia that some of the sailing folks
> are using that claims 3000+ cycles.

Sam, would you be kind enough to identify the brand or link to it? I
have a friend just now approaching Australia on his large cat and will
be replacing a very sizeable gel-cell battery bank soon.

Thank you.
JoeS.

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Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 

Kevin:
 
I started with the Honda 2000 eu generator and a 48v Marine Air X wind generator. I added a solar panel the following year. If I were starting over I would do the generator and solar first. Actually the solar panel keeps things charged up enough that the wind generator is shutdown until sundown most of the time and the battery voltage drops back down to under 54 volts. I would recommend you start with the generator and solar. I can push my 30 foot 8 ton sailboat at 3 knots using the generator alone if I need too.  I've been in some pretty rough conditions and found that the system always came through for me. I actually do more sailing and only use the electric propulsion when I really need it. Thanks to the group here I've learned a lot about Peukerts effect and always try and minimize current draw in order to not draw down the battery bank too rapidly. I will crank up the generator once the battery bank has dropped to the 80 to 90% range. I just found out that you actually need to draw down the battery bank a little bit when using the Zivan charger and generator. Otherwise the second stage charger pulses the Zivan (and I assume other three stage chargers) put out make the controller go into a protection mode.  In the end I have never said to myself : Gee, I wish I still had the old diesel onboard.
 
Capt.Mike
 
n Fri, 7/30/10, kps657 <kps657@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: kps657 <kps657@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 11:31 PM

 
Thanks Capt Mike,

I am still conflicted. I have only a mooring in Marblehead, MA. The electric option feels like it will serve the bulk of my needs - primarily day sailing. My issue is for the vacation trip or long weekend and having to rely solely on turbine and panels for recharge.
My sloop is only 30ft with a displacement of 8500lbs. I have a paranoia that electric will meet 90% of my needs and wont be there when I need it most. Am I nit picking?

Then I think about adding a genset. I am very confused and need to decide shortly as I have a fresh hole where my old MD 7 once puffed.

Thanks!
kps

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Capt. Mike" <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
>
> I sail most of the time in salt water. Though I have taken the boat to canada in the diesel days in fresh water. I'm very happy with my system and performance. I am just about to add a second 48 volt panel which will just about complete my installation plans.
>
> Capt. Mike
> Sent from on board BIANKA
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sweeney <kps657@...>
> Sender: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:40:40
> To: <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-to: electricboats@...: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
>
> Do you sail lake or salt? Are you satisfied with your choice?
> thanks
> kps
>
> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Capt. Mike <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> From: Capt. Mike <biankablog@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
> To: "ELECTRIC BOAT GROUP" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought I'd share with the group some real world experience with the solar and wind charging systems on my boat. It will give you an idea of what to expect. I needed to drop off the mooring and head to the dock for water and supplies.
>
> After returning to the mooring I had used according to the XBM battery monitor 5.5 amp hours. The capacity had dropped to 96%. It was around 2PM. There was no real wind so charging for most of the afternoon was primarily via the 60 watt solar panel. In the evening a line of thunder storms came through. The Marine AirX wind generator kicked in about 1 to 1.5 amps only in the higher gusts. After the storms passed the wind died again. The next day there again was no wind. So charging was again primarily solar. By 4pm about 26 hours after I returned to the mooring the XBM was registering 99.5% capacity. I hope this helps when thinking about adding solar and wind charging systems.
>
>
>
> Capt. Mike
>
> Sent from on board BIANKA
>
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>

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Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 

Kevin- another item that does not have a simple answer.

I use Lifeline AGM's which are supposedly good for 1000 recharge cycles.
There is a new battery from Australia that some of the sailing folks are using that claims 3000+ cycles.
Many of the off the shelf lead acid are much less.
Add to that whether you draw down less than 40%, types of charges etc and you have so many variables that there is no simple answer.
I have had my Lifelines for 3 year now. I am using mine in an Electric powered launch with a 5 HP electric submersible.
My sister is in the process of evaluating option for her 45 cat that she and her husband are building. Being in Australia they are looking long and hard at the Aussie batteries but still have not decided.
On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Kevin Sweeney wrote:

 

Thanks Sam.

How long have you had an electric solution? Do you have a sense at what the recurring expense looks like over time in having to replace the batteries?

Thanks!
Kevin

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Samuel Shallard <sshallard@maine.rr.com> wrote:

From: Samuel Shallard <sshallard@maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:47 PM

 

I really don't have any sage advice to offer.

From what I have read my guess is that you will be just fine.
Based on my own experience I like to be able to monitor what amps I am pulling and the voltage of my bank at all times.
I think it you have that capability you can more readily make judicious decisions on when you run the electric and for how long. 
On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:31 PM, kps657 wrote:

 

Thanks Capt Mike,

I am still conflicted. I have only a mooring in Marblehead, MA. The electric option feels like it will serve the bulk of my needs - primarily day sailing. My issue is for the vacation trip or long weekend and having to rely solely on turbine and panels for recharge.
My sloop is only 30ft with a displacement of 8500lbs. I have a paranoia that electric will meet 90% of my needs and wont be there when I need it most. Am I nit picking?

Then I think about adding a genset. I am very confused and need to decide shortly as I have a fresh hole where my old MD 7 once puffed.

Thanks!
kps

--- In electricboats@ yahoogroups. com, "Capt. Mike" <biankablog@. ..> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
>
> I sail most of the time in salt water. Though I have taken the boat to canada in the diesel days in fresh water. I'm very happy with my system and performance. I am just about to add a second 48 volt panel which will just about complete my installation plans.
>
> Capt. Mike
> Sent from on board BIANKA
> http://biankablog. blogspot. com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sweeney <kps657@...>
> Sender: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:40:40
> To: <electricboats@ yahoogroups. com>
> Reply-to: electricboats@ ...: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
>
> Do you sail lake or salt? Are you satisfied with your choice?
> thanks
> kps
>
> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Capt. Mike <biankablog@. ..> wrote:
>
> From: Capt. Mike <biankablog@. ..>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
> To: "ELECTRIC BOAT GROUP" <electricboats@ yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought I'd share with the group some real world experience with the solar and wind charging systems on my boat. It will give you an idea of what to expect. I needed to drop off the mooring and head to the dock for water and supplies.
>
> After returning to the mooring I had used according to the XBM battery monitor 5.5 amp hours. The capacity had dropped to 96%. It was around 2PM. There was no real wind so charging for most of the afternoon was primarily via the 60 watt solar panel. In the evening a line of thunder storms came through. The Marine AirX wind generator kicked in about 1 to 1.5 amps only in the higher gusts. After the storms passed the wind died again. The next day there again was no wind. So charging was again primarily solar. By 4pm about 26 hours after I returned to the mooring the XBM was registering 99.5% capacity. I hope this helps when thinking about adding solar and wind charging systems.
>
>
>
> Capt. Mike
>
> Sent from on board BIANKA
>
> http://biankablog. blogspot. com
>




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[Electric Boats] Looking to crew

 

TO all in the Wichita falls Denton, OKC Lawton area. There are three of us who want to learn to sail and willing to crew!
Please email me
check out my blog http://bluewater.alternative-answers.com/index.html
Fair winds and clean hulls
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Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 

Thanks Sam.

How long have you had an electric solution? Do you have a sense at what the recurring expense looks like over time in having to replace the batteries?

Thanks!
Kevin

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Samuel Shallard <sshallard@maine.rr.com> wrote:

From: Samuel Shallard <sshallard@maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:47 PM

 

I really don't have any sage advice to offer.

From what I have read my guess is that you will be just fine.
Based on my own experience I like to be able to monitor what amps I am pulling and the voltage of my bank at all times.
I think it you have that capability you can more readily make judicious decisions on when you run the electric and for how long. 
On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:31 PM, kps657 wrote:

 

Thanks Capt Mike,

I am still conflicted. I have only a mooring in Marblehead, MA. The electric option feels like it will serve the bulk of my needs - primarily day sailing. My issue is for the vacation trip or long weekend and having to rely solely on turbine and panels for recharge.
My sloop is only 30ft with a displacement of 8500lbs. I have a paranoia that electric will meet 90% of my needs and wont be there when I need it most. Am I nit picking?

Then I think about adding a genset. I am very confused and need to decide shortly as I have a fresh hole where my old MD 7 once puffed.

Thanks!
kps

--- In electricboats@ yahoogroups. com, "Capt. Mike" <biankablog@. ..> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
>
> I sail most of the time in salt water. Though I have taken the boat to canada in the diesel days in fresh water. I'm very happy with my system and performance. I am just about to add a second 48 volt panel which will just about complete my installation plans.
>
> Capt. Mike
> Sent from on board BIANKA
> http://biankablog. blogspot. com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sweeney <kps657@...>
> Sender: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:40:40
> To: <electricboats@ yahoogroups. com>
> Reply-to: electricboats@ ...: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
>
> Do you sail lake or salt? Are you satisfied with your choice?
> thanks
> kps
>
> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Capt. Mike <biankablog@. ..> wrote:
>
> From: Capt. Mike <biankablog@. ..>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
> To: "ELECTRIC BOAT GROUP" <electricboats@ yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought I'd share with the group some real world experience with the solar and wind charging systems on my boat. It will give you an idea of what to expect. I needed to drop off the mooring and head to the dock for water and supplies.
>
> After returning to the mooring I had used according to the XBM battery monitor 5.5 amp hours. The capacity had dropped to 96%. It was around 2PM. There was no real wind so charging for most of the afternoon was primarily via the 60 watt solar panel. In the evening a line of thunder storms came through. The Marine AirX wind generator kicked in about 1 to 1.5 amps only in the higher gusts. After the storms passed the wind died again. The next day there again was no wind. So charging was again primarily solar. By 4pm about 26 hours after I returned to the mooring the XBM was registering 99.5% capacity. I hope this helps when thinking about adding solar and wind charging systems.
>
>
>
> Capt. Mike
>
> Sent from on board BIANKA
>
> http://biankablog. blogspot. com
>



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Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 

I really don't have any sage advice to offer.

From what I have read my guess is that you will be just fine.
Based on my own experience I like to be able to monitor what amps I am pulling and the voltage of my bank at all times.
I think it you have that capability you can more readily make judicious decisions on when you run the electric and for how long. 
On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:31 PM, kps657 wrote:

 

Thanks Capt Mike,

I am still conflicted. I have only a mooring in Marblehead, MA. The electric option feels like it will serve the bulk of my needs - primarily day sailing. My issue is for the vacation trip or long weekend and having to rely solely on turbine and panels for recharge.
My sloop is only 30ft with a displacement of 8500lbs. I have a paranoia that electric will meet 90% of my needs and wont be there when I need it most. Am I nit picking?

Then I think about adding a genset. I am very confused and need to decide shortly as I have a fresh hole where my old MD 7 once puffed.

Thanks!
kps

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Capt. Mike" <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
>
> I sail most of the time in salt water. Though I have taken the boat to canada in the diesel days in fresh water. I'm very happy with my system and performance. I am just about to add a second 48 volt panel which will just about complete my installation plans.
>
> Capt. Mike
> Sent from on board BIANKA
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sweeney <kps657@...>
> Sender: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:40:40
> To: <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-to: electricboats@...: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
>
> Do you sail lake or salt? Are you satisfied with your choice?
> thanks
> kps
>
> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Capt. Mike <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> From: Capt. Mike <biankablog@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
> To: "ELECTRIC BOAT GROUP" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought I'd share with the group some real world experience with the solar and wind charging systems on my boat. It will give you an idea of what to expect. I needed to drop off the mooring and head to the dock for water and supplies.
>
> After returning to the mooring I had used according to the XBM battery monitor 5.5 amp hours. The capacity had dropped to 96%. It was around 2PM. There was no real wind so charging for most of the afternoon was primarily via the 60 watt solar panel. In the evening a line of thunder storms came through. The Marine AirX wind generator kicked in about 1 to 1.5 amps only in the higher gusts. After the storms passed the wind died again. The next day there again was no wind. So charging was again primarily solar. By 4pm about 26 hours after I returned to the mooring the XBM was registering 99.5% capacity. I hope this helps when thinking about adding solar and wind charging systems.
>
>
>
> Capt. Mike
>
> Sent from on board BIANKA
>
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>


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[Electric Boats] Re: Electra Craft battery drain

 

Another tip - buy two (even the cheap ones can usually be paralleled) - they are not marine-grade and prone to failure - this gives you a backup as well as higher total capacity.

-Keith

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Robert Newport <rnewport@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Chris
> I also got a suggestion from Able Roberts in Thailand to put a 36v -
> 12v converter on the boat so that power would draw evenly from all 6
> batteries instead of just the front 2.
> I found a 15 amp, 180 watt converter online for only $29.50, and with
> that I can wire the accessories directly into the key switch for the
> 36v motor so that everything on the boat shuts off when the key is
> removed.
> I'm still going to check each accessory individually as you
> suggested, and between both ideas, I'll either find the problem and
> fix it, or just make it go away until I can find it.
> I'm a happy guy!
> Thanks again for your assistance.
> Regards,
> Robert
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:53 AM, hardy71uk wrote:
>
> > glad to be of help . Even with nothing connected lead acid charge
> > will graually leak away so ideally they need a small charge every
> > month or so .
> >
> > Chris S
> >
> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Robert Newport <rnewport@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Chris!
> > > That's a great idea. I've got circuit breakers for all the
> > > accessories and access to the switches for all the lights, so I
> > > should be able to narrow my search down quite a bit. I'm also
> > > thinking about putting a key switch on the 12v system so it can be
> > > shut down easily when the boat is not being used. At the least, it
> > > would buy me time to find the problem and still be able to use the
> > > boat without having to regularly re-charge the 2 batteries that are
> > > used for the 12v system.
> > > Thanks very much for your help!
> > > Robert Newport
> > >
> > > On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:21 AM, hardy71uk wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think i would put a meter in the battery lead to measure current
> > > > and then disconnect circuits in turn until the current drops .You
> > > > can disconnect some circuits by opening circuit breakers .
> > > > chris S
> > > >
> > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "out2lunchrightnow"
> > > > <rnewport@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a 16' Electra Craft Baycruiser that's 15 years old. We
> > > > just put new batteries in it this spring. The front 2 batteries
> > > > that power the 12v circuit have gone completely dead. They've been
> > > > recharged, but are showing some loss again. The socket where shore
> > > > power plugs in shorted out and has been replaced and the wiring
> > > > cleaned up. Does anyone have any ideas where the 12v power drain
> > > > could be coming from and how would I find it? I've pulled out the
> > > > accessory outlet and the switch panel for the lights so I can
> > check
> > > > continuity, but none of the circuit breakers on the charger panel
> > > > in the bow have ever popped out and they all look to be wired
> > > > cleanly. Before the socket shorted out, the female end of the cord
> > > > was fused to the socket and had to be cut off so the socket could
> > > > be replaced, so I'm thinking that could have caused some wire on
> > > > the 12v circuit to short out and still be causing the drain. I
> > > > don't want to rewire the entire boat, so how would I find out
> > where
> > > > the drain is coming from?
> > > > > Thanks very much for any answers or feedback!
> > > > > Robert Newport
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Friday, July 30, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS

 

Thanks Capt Mike,

I am still conflicted. I have only a mooring in Marblehead, MA. The electric option feels like it will serve the bulk of my needs - primarily day sailing. My issue is for the vacation trip or long weekend and having to rely solely on turbine and panels for recharge.
My sloop is only 30ft with a displacement of 8500lbs. I have a paranoia that electric will meet 90% of my needs and wont be there when I need it most. Am I nit picking?

Then I think about adding a genset. I am very confused and need to decide shortly as I have a fresh hole where my old MD 7 once puffed.

Thanks!
kps

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Capt. Mike" <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
>
> I sail most of the time in salt water. Though I have taken the boat to canada in the diesel days in fresh water. I'm very happy with my system and performance. I am just about to add a second 48 volt panel which will just about complete my installation plans.
>
> Capt. Mike
> Sent from on board BIANKA
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sweeney <kps657@...>
> Sender: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:40:40
> To: <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-to: electricboats@...: Re: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
>
> Do you sail lake or salt? Are you satisfied with your choice?
> thanks
> kps
>
> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Capt. Mike <biankablog@...> wrote:
>
> From: Capt. Mike <biankablog@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] SOLAR & WIND NUMBERS
> To: "ELECTRIC BOAT GROUP" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought I'd share with the group some real world experience with the solar and wind charging systems on my boat. It will give you an idea of what to expect. I needed to drop off the mooring and head to the dock for water and supplies.
>
> After returning to the mooring I had used according to the XBM battery monitor 5.5 amp hours. The capacity had dropped to 96%. It was around 2PM. There was no real wind so charging for most of the afternoon was primarily via the 60 watt solar panel. In the evening a line of thunder storms came through. The Marine AirX wind generator kicked in about 1 to 1.5 amps only in the higher gusts. After the storms passed the wind died again. The next day there again was no wind. So charging was again primarily solar. By 4pm about 26 hours after I returned to the mooring the XBM was registering 99.5% capacity. I hope this helps when thinking about adding solar and wind charging systems.
>
>
>
> Capt. Mike
>
> Sent from on board BIANKA
>
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>

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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Electra Craft battery drain

 

Hi, Chris
I also got a suggestion from Able Roberts in Thailand to put a 36v - 12v converter on the boat so that power would draw evenly from all 6 batteries instead of just the front 2. 
I found a 15 amp, 180 watt converter online for only $29.50, and with that I can wire the accessories directly into the key switch for the 36v motor so that everything on the boat shuts off when the key is removed.
I'm still going to check each accessory individually as you suggested, and between both ideas, I'll either find the problem and fix it, or just make it go away until I can find it.
I'm a happy guy!
Thanks again for your assistance.
Regards,
Robert

On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:53 AM, hardy71uk wrote:

 

glad to be of help . Even with nothing connected lead acid charge will graually leak away so ideally they need a small charge every month or so .

Chris S

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Robert Newport <rnewport@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Chris!
> That's a great idea. I've got circuit breakers for all the
> accessories and access to the switches for all the lights, so I
> should be able to narrow my search down quite a bit. I'm also
> thinking about putting a key switch on the 12v system so it can be
> shut down easily when the boat is not being used. At the least, it
> would buy me time to find the problem and still be able to use the
> boat without having to regularly re-charge the 2 batteries that are
> used for the 12v system.
> Thanks very much for your help!
> Robert Newport
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:21 AM, hardy71uk wrote:
>
> > I think i would put a meter in the battery lead to measure current
> > and then disconnect circuits in turn until the current drops .You
> > can disconnect some circuits by opening circuit breakers .
> > chris S
> >
> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "out2lunchrightnow"
> > <rnewport@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got a 16' Electra Craft Baycruiser that's 15 years old. We
> > just put new batteries in it this spring. The front 2 batteries
> > that power the 12v circuit have gone completely dead. They've been
> > recharged, but are showing some loss again. The socket where shore
> > power plugs in shorted out and has been replaced and the wiring
> > cleaned up. Does anyone have any ideas where the 12v power drain
> > could be coming from and how would I find it? I've pulled out the
> > accessory outlet and the switch panel for the lights so I can check
> > continuity, but none of the circuit breakers on the charger panel
> > in the bow have ever popped out and they all look to be wired
> > cleanly. Before the socket shorted out, the female end of the cord
> > was fused to the socket and had to be cut off so the socket could
> > be replaced, so I'm thinking that could have caused some wire on
> > the 12v circuit to short out and still be causing the drain. I
> > don't want to rewire the entire boat, so how would I find out where
> > the drain is coming from?
> > > Thanks very much for any answers or feedback!
> > > Robert Newport
> > >
> >
> >
>


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